Sirius ([info]siriusjoe) wrote,
@ 2007-10-30 18:30:00
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Fight the matrix: take the red pill!
ZEITGEIST

A movie about the lies you are being told, about how you have been and are manipulated with myths in order to achieve perfect society control.

Watch the movie and ask yourself serious questions:
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

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too bad the red pill is total balony
[info]_shesrubbish
2007-10-30 11:16 pm UTC (link)
I haven't seen the movie in its entirity, but I've seen clips and stuff and as far as I can tell, it's hokum. They use fucking astrology to debunk the Jesus myth. Ummmmm WHAT?

Part 2 that I've seen about the 9/11 conspiracy is, as most conspiracies are, CRAP.

Most of their claims have been thorougly debunked. First off, nobody is saying that the steel "melted". Fire did NOT MELT the steel. The fire, however, significantly WEAKENED the steel. At the temperatures that airplane fuels burn, steel loses I think around 50% to 90% of its strength. That's significant enough to collapse the building. The puddles of molten metal that some of the survivors saw is actually the aluminium from the jets, which do melt at those kind of temperatures. The supposed "sharply bent steel" that they apparently found, I could not find any other reports (other than conspiracy sites) of that other than the explanation that some of the steel beams were cut AFTERWARDS, during the clean up. Either way, regardless of whether it was a "controlled" explosion or not, NO explosion will cut metal "cleanly." There are also total outright lies like there being NO PLANE OR BODIES at the pentagon. Um, sorry. WHAT? Another of their straw men is the "pancake theory". It'd be good and all if any of the officials were claiming it as the official explanation. But they're not.

Screw Loose Change does a pretty good job of debunking Loose Change + 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3214024953129565561

I haven't seen the third part but I think my friend told me that it was just about general government cover ups and conspiracies.

These guys are so paranoid and so desperate to be controversial that they're grabbing at straw.

Maybe I'll write up a full article debunking all the claims but now I have to go study for my midterm tomorrow! yey.

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[info]hotred
2007-10-30 11:20 pm UTC (link)
Qu'est ce que ça te fait à toi ce film? Et puis comment vas-tu?

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